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Post by sg on Nov 5, 2011 9:38:42 GMT 1
There seems to be an assumption among many fans of this new club that they will be accepted staight into the Premier Division next season. As a former season ticket holder at Nene Park (as well as a UCL watcher for over 30 years) I think this would be entirely wrong. I will probably regularly watch them next season but I think it should be in Division 1. People cite the example of Kings Lynn Town, but I don't think that was the correct decision by the league either, after all the Eastern Counties were only prepared to accept them in their Division 1. Any opinions on this?
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Post by desboroughvp on Nov 5, 2011 11:03:03 GMT 1
They should be in Division One next season.
When Wellingborough Town re-formed in 2004 they spent a season in the Northants Senior Youth League [Like AFC Rushden & Diamonds] and were accepted into Division One of the UCL the following season.
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Post by ugreenwithenvy on Nov 5, 2011 20:01:51 GMT 1
Don't really care cos i don't like them, never have, never will. Too many plastic fans, albeit 2000 of them are now missing!!!!!!! No doubt they will come crawling back if an AFC senior side starts winning week in, week out next season.
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Post by inthedugout on Nov 5, 2011 21:02:41 GMT 1
How can they even get into UCL Division 1? They don't have a ground and are also struggling to make the top three of their half of the Northants Senior Youth League. Kings Lynn dropped down to the UCL a couple of years ago - they can't now just say we're ready to go back into the Conference. So why should Diamonds drop to the NSYL and then decide they're ready to join the UCL without getting the necessary promotions on the pitch.
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Post by fozwaldo on Nov 5, 2011 22:14:04 GMT 1
Come back Irthlingborough Diamonds.
All is forgiven ??
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Post by sg on Nov 5, 2011 22:43:28 GMT 1
How can they even get into UCL Division 1? They don't have a ground and are also struggling to make the top three of their half of the Northants Senior Youth League. Kings Lynn dropped down to the UCL a couple of years ago - they can't now just say we're ready to go back into the Conference. So why should Diamonds drop to the NSYL and then decide they're ready to join the UCL without getting the necessary promotions on the pitch. What necessary promotions? You can't be promoted from youth football it is obviously totally seperate! The point is UCL 1 is effectively the bottom of the system, no one currently in the Combination want's to be promoted and no one is ever relegated to it.
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Post by kevinb on Nov 9, 2011 14:41:33 GMT 1
Good idea, perhaps with St Neots now thay have a "spare pitch" every other Saturday
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Post by Grissles Oleary on Nov 9, 2011 18:26:14 GMT 1
It does say quality football,does not the trade descriptions act kick in there? ;D
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Post by 3ofdiamonds on Dec 10, 2011 13:35:44 GMT 1
There seems to be an assumption among many fans of this new club that they will be accepted staight into the Premier Division next season. As a former season ticket holder at Nene Park (as well as a UCL watcher for over 30 years) I think this would be entirely wrong. I will probably regularly watch them next season but I think it should be in Division 1. People cite the example of Kings Lynn Town, but I don't think that was the correct decision by the league either, after all the Eastern Counties were only prepared to accept them in their Division 1. Any opinions on this? No one our end is assuming anything. We've had our parent club killed from underneath us in bizarre circumstances - what fans that are left are the "real" ones IMO. I don't recall other clubs who don't have their own grounds being denied any right to competition. If we are placed in Div 1 then so be it. I believe we have to present a business plan to the UCL and THEY shall make the decision, not us. All we're trying to do is survive until we're in a position to have our own ground. We're a friendly bunch of football fans who have started their own community based club because of what happenned, but don't get us wrong - we want out team to win (who doesn't?).
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Post by Grissles Oleary on Dec 10, 2011 15:40:25 GMT 1
Being from King's Lynn i wish you all the best,and as you said the league will decide where you start,onwards and upwards. ;D
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Post by 3ofdiamonds on Dec 11, 2011 8:40:37 GMT 1
Being from King's Lynn i wish you all the best,and as you said the league will decide where you start,onwards and upwards. ;D Thanks very much. Around 6 or 7 of us came over to Desboro yesterday and watched you play them. You look a good outfit compared to other teams I've seen in this league and should be close on winning it.
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Post by tyrone on Dec 11, 2011 11:02:04 GMT 1
the ucl prem div isnt their a small matter of winning the combination league first before even thinking of joining ucl, just because they took on the diamonds name after the afc does not make them rushden & diamonds. if i was a combination side trying to gain entry into the ucl & saw a team leapfrog me just because they have a few quid & 200 fans i would not be too impressed. im not anti afc far from it & i hope they get as far as they can & wish them all the success . but do it properly like everyone else had to
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Post by 3ofdiamonds on Dec 11, 2011 11:58:58 GMT 1
the ucl prem div isnt their a small matter of winning the combination league first before even thinking of joining ucl, just because they took on the diamonds name after the afc does not make them rushden & diamonds. if i was a combination side trying to gain entry into the ucl & saw a team leapfrog me just because they have a few quid & 200 fans i would not be too impressed. im not anti afc far from it & i hope they get as far as they can & wish them all the success . but do it properly like everyone else had to I'm sorry tyrone, but we ARE Rushden & Diamonds the FOOTBALL CLUB. It was the limited company that has to be registered with the FSA that went bust NOT the band of people/ supporters who are the CLUB. We have potentially 500 fans waiting for our Saturday side and we shall abide by the decision of the UCL & FA rules as to what competition we are to be placed in.
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Post by 3ofdiamonds on Dec 11, 2011 12:01:12 GMT 1
the ucl prem div isnt their a small matter of winning the combination league first before even thinking of joining ucl, just because they took on the diamonds name after the afc does not make them rushden & diamonds. if i was a combination side trying to gain entry into the ucl & saw a team leapfrog me just because they have a few quid & 200 fans i would not be too impressed. im not anti afc far from it & i hope they get as far as they can & wish them all the success . but do it properly like everyone else had to I'm sorry tyrone, but we ARE Rushden & Diamonds the FOOTBALL CLUB. It was the limited company that has to be registered with the FSA that went bust NOT the band of people/ supporters who are the CLUB. We have potentially 500 fans waiting for our Saturday side and we shall abide by the decision of the UCL & FA rules as to what competition we are to be placed in. That's as "proper" as it gets.
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Post by tyrone on Dec 11, 2011 17:20:33 GMT 1
yes legally once the football team folded you took the name on & were kindly given the clubs finances that were left over but thats about it as far as the comparisons go. from 2000 fans to 200 which is the average gate for the u18 side which dont get me wrong is very impressive & breaks all senior youth league attendances . yr a new football team trying to find yr feet on the local scene .you will be relying on a club to allow you to share their ground so u can fulfill fixtures & you will have to have a pretty decent budget to attract players to join yr club.so to repeat myself no yr not rushden & diamonds that thrilled us all for many yrs under max griggs yr a new club who are starting from scratch & i along with everyone else wishes you & yr supporters all the best for the long and windy rd ahead . do things properly start at the bottom & work yr way thru the leagues to earn the respect from everyone
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