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Post by grassroots on Sept 19, 2007 18:16:47 GMT 1
Newport Pagnell are almost there with there ground. They are waiting on a couple of porta cabins to be used as toilets and a burger / tea cabin. And then all they have to do is install the turnstiles.
The ground grading standards are now set too high for step 5 clubs. They cant relegate 17 or 18 teams so surely the FA will have to back off?
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Post by phoenix on Sept 19, 2007 19:07:31 GMT 1
To answer SS's original point he should look at the link in ground gradings topic below started by ianh in November 06. This shows the August 07 position. In addition I understand there are only a couple of clubs that comply fully with the step 5 requirements currently- that will make for a large Division 1 next season ! I think the idea is if you are already at a particular step, you won't get relegated due to your ground, just not promoted. There are plenty of clubs who have been at step 4 and 3 that don't meet the criteria. And there are many clubs at step 5 and 6 that if they do get relegated won't be able to go back up if their league position allows. |
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Post by Lankie on Sept 19, 2007 20:46:18 GMT 1
"The implications are that any Premier Division Club not meeting the requirements by 31st March 2008 will be relegated to Step Six (UCL Division One) for the 2008/2009 season. At present only two Premier Division Clubs meet the requirements" Quoted from the UCL management committee minutes !
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Post by pyromaniac on Sept 30, 2007 10:07:15 GMT 1
In many respects St Neots have got it easy in that they're getting a new ground built for them by the developers, which is of a much higher standard (in my opinion) than they already have, and will meet higher league requirements. At present I *think* the current ground also meets the UCL Premier division requirements. Having said that like all clubs they've got a lot of money to raise, as they've got to fit out the new ground which isn't cheap.
I think the problem for most clubs is money. Unless you've got contacts and/or are able to get a lot of sponsorship (money) then it can be very difficult to large expenses (eg. a new stand). From visiting quite a few clubs in the league it makes me realise how fortunate St Neots is, though having said that if things hadn't changed about a year ago then the club would have folded. Whilst the clubs I've visited seem to have the enthusiasm from the staff/volunteers the ground/clubhouse doesn't always reflect this. In the past I've come away from grounds thinking "I'm sure this club doesn't meet the current league requirements".
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Post by buggalugs on Sept 30, 2007 11:25:07 GMT 1
If that ruling is across the whole of the country, then the SSML will disappear completely!
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Post by ianh on Sept 30, 2007 11:35:02 GMT 1
If that ruling is across the whole of the country, then the SSML will disappear completely! Agreed, The ground gradings are harsh for some, but if the FA applied them consistently across the country (even for newly promoted clubs) it would be a lot easier and fairer to enforce them |
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Post by buggalugs on Sept 30, 2007 12:51:02 GMT 1
The FA should review the content and discard the more ludicrous aspects, focuse simply on safety aspects, and then have the necessary work done at their own expense rather than the clubs involved.
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Post by grassroots on Sept 30, 2007 16:38:47 GMT 1
If that ruling is across the whole of the country, then the SSML will disappear completely! I agree with that! Its also the same with some of the clubs in other leagues as well (the ones i have visited)! I agree that clubs need to work on Health & Safety criteria but they have taken it to far (agreeing with yourself Ian H). I still cant see that they cant force all clubs to meet this new criteria as most dont and most dont have the money. Are they going to kick most of the clubs out of the leagues? There will be hardly any clubs left at step 5 & 6 if they do that! |
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Post by superscully on Oct 7, 2007 17:59:44 GMT 1
Off thread slightly ...
Criteria / reqiurements for entry / membership to the UCL 2008 / 09 season , and so on
Do all clubs have to have floodlights to re - enter the league ?
or is it for new applicants only ?
Or does it not matter , can clubs without lights continue to play in the UCL next season and after that ?
Can someone please enlighten
How many clubs in UCL DIV1 currently do not have Floodlights ? How many clubs UCL DIV1 do not meet premier league criteria ?
And are there any implications / plans / measures in the future on this matter ?
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Post by pyromaniac on Oct 8, 2007 8:35:24 GMT 1
And are there any implications / plans / measures in the future on this matter ? Hopefully this helps, taken from the UCL Managment minutes (hopefully OK to quote extract, if not please ask a mod to remove)... ...thus eventually UCL Division One will be affected by the new FA rules. I suspect these rules may require floodlights and goodness knows what else. |
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Post by judgejohn on Oct 8, 2007 10:30:51 GMT 1
My understanding is that at this point any prem club who does not meet the criteria for Step 5 by March 31 2008 will face relegation and that may involve a lot of teams. Maybe more should be spent on facilities and less on overrated players  . I think some clubs cannot expect the FA to be sympathetic when they alledgedly spend best part of £20k + on player budgets but dont get facilities improved that may cost less than the player budget. |
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Post by ianh on Oct 8, 2007 11:35:44 GMT 1
My understanding is that at this point any prem club who does not meet the criteria for Step 5 by March 31 2008 will face relegation and that may involve a lot of teams. As it stands John, that is almost correct, (In my opinion) just need to swap will and may round - 'any prem club who does not meet the criteria for Step 5 by March 31 2008 may face relegation and that will involve a lot of teams.' |
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Post by Lankie on Oct 8, 2007 16:00:57 GMT 1
As previously mentioned the management committee state that only two clubs comply fully with step five requirements - this would mean a division one of over 30 clubs next season assuming that the step six criteria are not mandatory in March 2008. Where would that leave the UCL ?
To answer SS's query there are currently four club's without lights, Whitworths and PNS who should both have them before next season together with Chenecks and BPW whose position is unknown to me. (BPW do have pylons)
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Post by superscully on Oct 8, 2007 22:00:51 GMT 1
Ok
All clubs in all ucl divisions ought to have lights in the next year or so ?
By 2009 / 10 season ?
And if they dont ?
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Post by judgejohn on Oct 8, 2007 22:04:50 GMT 1
A league that does not need lights as part of the criteria to play in..................
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. I think some clubs cannot expect the FA to be sympathetic when they alledgedly spend best part of £20k + on player budgets but dont get facilities improved that may cost less than the player budget.