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Post by cookie on Apr 16, 2012 13:30:56 GMT 1
This is exactly why teams like Kings Lynn with a huge fan base should not be allowed in the UCL.
It’s lucky that no one was seriously hurt.
I have made the point before, Kings Lynn and clubs like them must be made to pay for independent stewards and a police presence at away games.
If they don’t get promoted then kick em out or force them to pay for the protection of other clubs fans, if there is a shred of truth about the 40 year old man fighting with 13 or 14 year olds surely anyone can see how dangerous this all is.
Do we have to wait for something serious to happen before something is done?
PS to the person who claimed to be walking across the pitch to get out? Do you realise what you have said? You have admitted entering the field of play? That isn’t right during, before or after a match at this level and above! What do you think the barriers are for?
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Post by Grissles Oleary on Apr 16, 2012 13:49:28 GMT 1
This is exactly why teams like Kings Lynn with a huge fan base should not be allowed in the UCL. It’s lucky that no one was seriously hurt. I have made the point before, Kings Lynn and clubs like them must be made to pay for independent stewards and a police presence at away games. If they don’t get promoted then kick em out or force them to pay for the protection of other clubs fans, if there is a shred of truth about the 40 year old man fighting with 13 or 14 year olds surely anyone can see how dangerous this all is. Do we have to wait for something serious to happen before something is done? PS to the person who claimed to be walking across the pitch to get out? Do you realise what you have said? You have admitted entering the field of play? That isn’t right during, before or after a match at this level and above! What do you think the barriers are for? I think you have missed a few points Cookie,with regard to paying for extra stewards etc,that was the alleged reason behind the price hike and parking charges,also to build a new gate designed to cope with large numbers of people in and out.Please watch the video of the second half you will see fans from both teams on the pitch,also the Long Buckby bench throwing water over Lynn fans,Buckby players taunting the Lynn fans,and no sign of the 'extra' 30 paid stewards! Most players were off the pitch when the Lynn fans started to walk across the pitch,the Buckby fan/stroke steward was on with the players,any failing in crowd control or prevention of trouble was down to Long Buckby and nothing to do with King's Lynn!
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Post by linnet1976 on Apr 16, 2012 14:55:39 GMT 1
Just a shame we have a few idiots who spoil if for the rest of us. And can you tell us what steps are being taken to remove these idiots from your club? As I said in original post - those that I saw involved in trouble I haven't seen at the walks for years (if at all). Not sure how you can remove people who don't come to home games? Also, I hope you will ask the same question to Buckby as they had fans run on the pitch as well.
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Post by linnet1976 on Apr 16, 2012 14:59:43 GMT 1
This is exactly why teams like Kings Lynn with a huge fan base should not be allowed in the UCL. It’s lucky that no one was seriously hurt. I have made the point before, Kings Lynn and clubs like them must be made to pay for independent stewards and a police presence at away games. If they don’t get promoted then kick em out or force them to pay for the protection of other clubs fans, if there is a shred of truth about the 40 year old man fighting with 13 or 14 year olds surely anyone can see how dangerous this all is. Do we have to wait for something serious to happen before something is done? PS to the person who claimed to be walking across the pitch to get out? Do you realise what you have said? You have admitted entering the field of play? That isn’t right during, before or after a match at this level and above! What do you think the barriers are for? Why should we pay for police? We don't need them at home. It's only for big games the idiots, who aren't Lynn fans, come out. We've had no real trouble at any other away game this season. In fact several clubs have thanked us and welcomed out support. I'm sure there were people from Buckby who don't normally go to games there as well. We've averaged around 650 at home this season, with no hint of real trouble. I assume that if, and when, AFC Rushden join the UCL you'll want them paying for police and extra stewards as well??
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Post by tommygun84 on Apr 16, 2012 18:56:15 GMT 1
Cookie, read my post, i was a few feet away from the trouble that started, it was the buckby " stewards " that started it. Wish people would take there blinkered glasses off and place blame on facts and not fiction, anyway cookie, was you at the game?
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Post by Grissles Oleary on Apr 16, 2012 19:04:18 GMT 1
Will Long Buckby be held to account? I think not,they will go unpunished as usual,Everyone automatically blames King's Lynn!
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Post by fozwaldo on Apr 16, 2012 20:22:59 GMT 1
If written complaints are submitted by either/both sides then surely they can't be ignored at league or county level.
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Post by buggalugs on Apr 16, 2012 21:38:25 GMT 1
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Post by fozwaldo on Apr 16, 2012 23:44:03 GMT 1
Even more poignant, at the end of the second video there appears to be a league official present!!!!
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Post by cookie on Apr 17, 2012 7:06:05 GMT 1
Well surprise, surprise, • Your picking on us • It wasn’t us it was a mystery • We don’t know them, they come from outer space • It’s a conspiracy, you have it in for us • You only blame us • They did so we did it… so it’s ok. • They started it • And I have missed the point? Just for the record if you can’t bother to actually read my comments, I am not blaming any one club or any one individual but simply making the point that has something really bad got to happen before appropriate measures are put in place for large crowds. And absolutely right if R&D or any club who comes with a large following they should have to pay to put in place the necessary safety procedures.
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Post by deepinghatter on Apr 17, 2012 8:06:31 GMT 1
So Grissles idea is that when the fighting kicks off people actually film the thugs to identify the culprits rather than move to a safe place. Don't you think if you are filming such events they are just as likely to come after you to destroy the evidence?? Sheer lunacy!
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Post by ruushden on Apr 17, 2012 9:56:33 GMT 1
AFC Rushden & Diamonds have trained stewards among their membership, they are also in the process of training more as it appears this scenario has been anticipated. It's a shame KL and LB couldn't have had such foresight as it seems that KL have previous.
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Post by westlynnmike on Apr 17, 2012 10:14:09 GMT 1
This is exactly why teams like Kings Lynn with a huge fan base should not be allowed in the UCL. It’s lucky that no one was seriously hurt. I have made the point before, Kings Lynn and clubs like them must be made to pay for independent stewards and a police presence at away games. If they don’t get promoted then kick em out or force them to pay for the protection of other clubs fans, if there is a shred of truth about the 40 year old man fighting with 13 or 14 year olds surely anyone can see how dangerous this all is. Do we have to wait for something serious to happen before something is done? PS to the person who claimed to be walking across the pitch to get out? Do you realise what you have said? You have admitted entering the field of play? That isn’t right during, before or after a match at this level and above! What do you think the barriers are for? Cookie, you're a pratttttttt When a team with a large fan base goes to another venue then the team HOSTING the event has the responsibility to ensure the safety of all personnel attending. Long Buckby raised its entrance fee to cover the costs of stewarding the match vs King's Lynn who were always likely to have a lot (at least 500+) supporters attending. LB stated that there would be some 30 stewards in attendance. Where the hell did they think that they would get 30 trained stewards from. It would mean that half their fan base would need to be enrolled as stewards. How did they pay those stewards? Cash in hand or through the books, paying tax etc. If they were there then they did nothing about the group of LB fans sitting in the stand who started singing "your're a load of w*****s" with women and children nearby and standing in a seating area. They also did not attempt to remove the 2 LB fans who invaded the pitch and joined in the LB players celebrating their 2nd goal - I even think that these 2 might even have been "stewards/car park attendants" but not sure. Anyway, the "stewards" were not much in evidence, four parking attendants (who were supposedly to double up as "stewards" during and after the match) 2 wearing dayglow vests directing cars and 2 with no dayglow vests or any other identification taking the £3 at the gate. That's another point, LB informed KL management about the entry fees but did not mention Robin Hood and his Merry Men charging £3 car parking which no other visiting club's supporters have ever been charged before!! Another point, matey, when supporters attend a match at King's Lynn they are issued an official ticket as a receipt for there entry fee. I paid my £8 to the steward in the Rabbit Hutch at the gate but there was no sign of any tickets being issued and he even had the nerve to try to sell me a programme which had been cobbled together. The best experience of my day at LB was the cheerful ladies in the refreshment area, 2 cups of coffee and the Pukka Pie at half time. Thank you ladies.
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Post by Grissles Oleary on Apr 17, 2012 10:38:47 GMT 1
With today's technology pictures could have been taken from a safe distance,and as the thirty stewards that our extra £3 was to pay for weren't there,can we have our £3 back?
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Post by cookie on Apr 17, 2012 10:43:24 GMT 1
Mr Sad & angry get ya head out of ya...... and have a think about whats actually being said your rant does you no credit what so ever. When did i say that kind of singing is acceptable? Taking the few positves from your comments, it highlights 1. the need for independent & trained stewards and 2. police prescence.
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